Why the Hell are Here?

[MalcolmXavier]

Why the hell are we here? To jibber-jabber? To postulate and pretent that we are about the liberation of ourselves? There is so much chitter-chatter going on amoungst us about our liberation, but very little to no action to bring it about. This is one of many web sites that supposedly is intended to facilitate discussion to further our liberation, bt I notice that there is really very little discussion aimed at achieving that, just look at where most of the discussion takes place. We are all wrapped up in the Obama campaign or in other words, Amerikkklan electorial politics, making Obama the messiah and voting for him and his racist hypocratic party as our greatest hope.

Ae at the same time we ignore and fail to support real grassroots struggles and efforts for social justice, then claim that we are aout our liberation. This is bullshit at best, and betrayal of our struggle at worst. It does not matter what color mask the oppressor wears, it is still the oppressor. Obama talks about "hunting down" Osama bin Laden who has never done anything to oppress us, yet he has never mentioned the institutional racist oppression of Amerikkka, because he says that he loves it, he embraces it, and promises to do all that he can to make sure that it remains paramount. Screw Obama and all that he stands for, and any knee-grow willing to stand with him in this nightmare claiming to be a "dream." I refuse to submit to the plantation politics being promoted by so many knee-grows in Amerikkka, including those on this site.

[Ulysses]

So, simply put
You want to be master of the plantation and everybody that doesn't wish to help you attain that goal is "the enemy" of all black people?

So, what's your plan?

[MalcolmXavier]

Wrong. How you came up with that conclusion is beyond me, have you been inhaling that crap in the can you are holding? My plan? Part of my plan is not be afraid of challenging ourselves to think differently, more clearly and more critically about our role in world events, which I find sorely lacking in many of our discussions, such as was the case as to the meaning of Obama. And what you did not understand and maybe still do not get is that his campaign turned Malcolm's analogy of the "house negro and the field negro" on it head, whereby it has led many of our people into feeling more vested in not only staying on the plantation, but "hoping, dreaming, and praying" for its salvation more than white folk. Rush said that he hopes Obama fails, when it is his house that is on fire, but here we go fighting harder to put out the fire quicker than massa, because a head negro is in charge.

Stop sniffing that crap in that can man, its got your perspective all screwed up, m position is not to become the "master" of any plantation, nor for us to continue identifying with and supporting the plantation system, but doing everything possible to get as many of us to understand that it is just that and works against our interest, no matter what color massa might make himself. Now, we are inspired to raise the next generation of house niggas, kitchen niggas, porch monkeys, lawn jockeys, and garden variety knee-grows. Don't you be one.

[Ulysses]

It's just a Belgian beer bottle, hand painted to look like porcelain. The bottle itself is worth far more than what it contained as a consumable. The thought, the thing that makes what it produced a valuable and trade worthy commodity, is what I'm interested in. So, it's in my art collection.

Obama's greatest purpose could simply be to make us more able to see what we can be and are capable of, individually and collectively.
To help us understand that the greatest things that we are denied are internal.
Perhaps what he can do is make people realize that everything they have is a product of thought. And never in the history of mankind has the inventor or creator of a thing been the same person that produces that thing in mass.

Insulting professional thinkers is denying the first step in the process of getting whatever you want to where you want it to be.

You can't win a war without thinkers,
You can't enslave nations without thinkers
You can't even collect the information that you use for arguments without thinkers.

Like this board, so full of shit slinging. "Niggah this Nigga that", One thing we must appreciate is that a nigger is only going to do what they are forced to do.

So, if I draw a map or a schematic and write out the instructions. The leader is the person that can read, understand, repeat and follow the instructions.
Because I don't have time to break every explanation down to easy to digest bits and pieces of information for everyone that has a question. I have to get back to the work of thinking.

I get paid to think, others get paid to execute what I've thought up.

There's no shortage of people that want to be leaders. What we lack are people that can understand what others think and translate those designs to the masses.

I understand how these processes could be out of your reach.

[Ulysses]

I thought this was a place for relatively free people to discus being more or less free
How to expand that freedom and how to enjoy those freedoms

I guess you're right. There's not a lot of talk about that is there?

Had you ever pondered the notion that you may be "the oppressor"?
That something you utilize or consume enslaves another human being?
Chances are that thought never even crosses your mind.

But most of us are quite guilty of doing just that. And because it is not our intent most of us are totally, intentionally, sometimes brutally abusively oblivious and in denial of our misuses of other human beings.

Let's be truthful
either you own the plantation
work on the plantation
consume the products of the plantation or
you're a bum
Like Siddhartha, Moses, Jesus and Mohammed

Freedom is not really all that damned convenient.
And liberation requires you have something equal to trade for the manufactured things you desire.

The important part is how you treat the people that provide the things that sustain your living.

And this is why actively thinking people are wealthier than actively laboring people, because there are so few of one and so many of the others.

This is why rhetoric and logic are important, because without them you can't have collaboration.